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An Adventure of the Mind and SpiritThe narrator of this extraordinary tale is a man in search for truth He answers an ad in a local newspaper from a teacher looking for serious pupils only to find himself alone in an abandoned office with a full grown gorilla who is nibbling delicately on a sle. Are you the sort of person who hears other people discussing books and finding yourself wondering how they can even form opinions on stories I mean either you like it or you don t right Well if that s you then read this book The Giver and Siddhartha if that sounds like too much substitute Jonathan Livingston Seagull for the latter Once you ve done that you ll feel all sorts of strange emotions and ideas swirling around inside you and you too will be able to talk about how a book made you thinkThen you should watch Donnie Darko which will become your favorite movie and you can talk about how movies made you think too Soon you ll be readin and thinkin and talkin up a storm It s just like a dog who eats grass so he can understand horsesThis book may seem impressive if you don t have much experience with philosophy history sociology or theology but the ideas in this book are about as complex as what you d find in a college freshman s paper And uinn has an agenda he wants to convince you so all of his ideas are simplified and mixed up to support his conclusions Whether he did this deliberately to convince the reader or accidentally in the process of trying to convince himself isn t really important which is really worseFor example in his retelling of the Cain and Abel story he completely conflates Hunter Gatherer societies with Pastoral Nomads which makes his entire argument murky It s just another example of the Noble Savage in balance with nature thing which is terribly naive Native cultures often transformed the land around them and drove animals to extinction as evidenced by the way mammoths were hunted until none remained One archaeological team on the West Coast of America discovered that the local tribe had been systematically killing and eating all the animals in the area Looking through the piles of discarded bones they d find the tribe hunted and ate one animal until there were none left then moved on to a different animal Eventually the diseases brought by Europeans reached them and their population was greatly reduced and then the animals began to flourish againThe whole notion that humans used to be in balance but no longer are is a fuzzy dream and not useful for anyone trying to look at the world and the problems we face Humans are not the first animals to cause extinction we re not even the first to cause worldwide atmospheric change leading to mass extinction It is a gross oversimplification like all of the arguments in this book and one that was already a uarter century out of date among ecologists by the time uinn was writingYou might ask why is this a problem isn t any book that gets people to think worthwhile but the problem is that through oversimplification and emotional appeals this books actually sets out to shut down independent thought in the reader It isn t asking hard uestions as much as it s giving out easy answers It is trying to tell you how things are instead of inviting you to uestion the world for yourselfBeyond that the philosophy it presents is a rather insidious one at its core The idea that there is some great natural order to things is very comforting because it makes the world sensible predictable and easy to understand If there is such an order then we can simply trust in it give ourselves up to it and let the rest take care of itself It becomes a passive attitude a uestion of faith in the systemBut the idea of the natural order has been used and is still being used by power structures against the people Jan Smuts Prime Minister of South Africa wrote on it extensively using it to set up and maintain apartheid arguing that since colonial Europeans had conuered large parts of the world therefore it was their natural state to rule and that it was natural for native populations to be ignorant and subservientLikewise when the powerhouse thinktank the Club of Rome presented The Limits of Growth in 1972 proposing that the only way to prevent ecological disaster was to maintain things as they are now indefinitely protesters pointed out that this policy would support the status uo keeping the same people and structures in power instead of trying to improve or change our current system and of course the club was made up of the same political leaders businessmen bureaucrats and economists who would have the most to lose if any change were made in the current systemBy the seventies there was already a sea change taking place in ecology and it was becoming clear that far from being in a state of self correcting balance the natural world was constantly shifting and changing that animal and plant populations varied widely from year to year and decade to decade even in isolated populations where you would most expect to see euilibrium reached The problem becomes that anyone who believes that some structure must be there underlying everything is going to trust that at a certain point that structure will balance things out automaticallyIt s like walking a tightrope and just assuming there must be a net below you that will catch you when you fall a dangerous assumption to make especially when we know it s not true Taking action to stabilize our world on our end but just trusting that natural balance will take care of things on the other end is the height of irresponsibility and bound to throw things even out of whack A in depth look at the progression of ecological theory can be found in part 2 of the BBC documentary All Watched Over By Machines of Loving GraceIn the end mixed in with wrong headed assumptions and out of date theories uinn gives us nothing than the most simplistic basic conclusions about the world Should people be nice to each other Yes Should we destroy the things that keep us alive No We all know that We don t need uinn to tell us And we all know that solving problems is harder than saying that things could be better I just went as deep as this book goes and I didn t even need to give you lectures from a magical talking monkey

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H of time to a future there is still time save Like all great teachers Ishmael refuses to make the lesson easy; he demands the final illumination to come from within ourselves Is it man's destiny to rule the world Or is it a higher destiny possible for him one wonderful than he has ever imagine. A little story about Ishmael by Daniel uinnI first read this back in the fall of 99 for a college course It was a time in my life where for a variety of reasons including a breakup of a long relationship I was first began to think for myself instead of think what others wanted me to think This book completely wiped away the world view that my parents friends and teachers had put into my head for so many years and then began the formation of my own view Since then I have been a seekerSynopsisAlan Lomax responds to an ad in the paper that says Teacher seeks pupil Must have an earnest deisre to save the world Apply in person The ad turns out to have been placed by gorilla who then through telepathic conversation basically explains why things are the way they are in the world I ve found the simple message of this book to have a huge impact on my view of the environment and our human relation to it Other things such as the book Collapse by Jared Diamond or Al Gore s movie An Inconvenient Truth have also had effect but Ishmael has been the most life changing in this respect This book made me aware of the horrible over consumption of resources of human beings in everyday life The world will not be saved by programs such as recycling or forest protection programs because people are countering these programs everyday in their daily activities What is needed is a change of view of our place in the world and that s what Ishmael gave me

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Nder branch You are the teacher he asks incredulously I am the teacher the gorilla replies Ishmael is a creature of immense wisdom and he has a story to tell one that no other human being has ever heard It is a story that extends backward and forward over the lifespan of the earth from the birt. This book was recommended to me from my Ecology teacher on Saturday I bought it the same day because i really needed a decent read i having been craving this all the time lately I did not put it down until i was done with it two days later The premise is a man talking to a gorilla however simple and idiotic that may seem to you this story reveals so elouently what i have always believed to be the reasons for the way we live in modern society It details the way in which our society has enslaved us and forced us to enact a story we have been told since the dawning of the agricultural revolution one which we still are enacting today Some things just don t sit right with a person until they are fully spelled out and then they REALLY don t sit right with you I couldn t cry for this book though i should have several times I could only read on with a greater sense of Holy shit This is truth then i have felt in a very long while My life will never be the same because of Ishmael Read it now and yours won t either my goal is to get at least 20 people i know to read this book you should be one of them


10 thoughts on “Ishmael By Daniel Quinn

  1. says:

    Are you the sort of person who hears other people discussing books and finding yourself wondering how they can even form opinions on stories?

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    My biggest problem with primitivism as a philosophy is its inherent hypocrisy Notice how it's always highly educated white dudes insulated from the world who clamor for a return to some idealized simpler life? In the case of this book it's a distinguished professor haughtily preaching about how we should learn some lessons from hun

  3. says:

    This book gets many 5 star reviews and is touted as “life changing”My comment “GET A LIFE” This could possibly be THE WORST bo

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    The reason I like uinn’s style in “Ishmael” is that he doesn’t assume a pedantic perch atop humanity and force feed a philosophically driven A Z laundry list of “how to make yourself a better human being” and “save the w

  5. says:

    Lessons in Metaphysics for Recovering IdealistsThe conventional translation of the name Ishmael from Hebrew is ‘God hears’ But there is an eually plausible alternative ‘Man is God’ This could well be Daniel uinn’s satiric

  6. says:

    This book was recommended to me from my Ecology teacher on Saturday I bought it the same day because i really needed a decent read i having been craving this all the time lately I did not put it down until i was

  7. says:

    A little story about Ishmael by Daniel uinnI first read this back in the fall of '99 for a college course It was a time in my life where for a v

  8. says:

    Step right up ladies and gentlemen Behold the majesty of Curious George as he gets all dialogue y on your ass Your encounter will leave you changed You too may find yourself flinging poop at civilization along with our simian savior A telepathic gorilla develops something like consciousness is happily able to flower under

  9. says:

    I haven't finished this book yet but I probably won't because it sucks First of all it's supposed to be a novel but it's entirely didactic The

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    The top three reviews on this book are salty 1 star reviews 0oEven if you don't agree with the philosophical underpinnings of this novel it is a thought provoking tale of great powerThe story is allegorical but even the surface story is an emotional and engaging taleI found this deeply enjoyable It is certainly worth your time to take a look even if you don't agree with the philosophy